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Post by Tony Mon May 16, 2011 7:51 pm

Zangoose @ Salac Berry
Adamant
252 Attack + 252 Speed

Swords Dance
Flail
Shadow Claw
Endure


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Togekiss @ Leftovers
Bold
I Forget EV spread

Thunder Wave
Water Pulse
Air Slash
Roost


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Dragonite @ Leftovers
Adamant
252 Attack + 252 Speed


Dragon Dance
Roost
Dragon Claw
Fire Punch


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Scizor @ Muscle Band
Adamant
252 Attack + 252 Speed


Swords Dance
Roost
Bullet Punch
Bug Bite


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Suicune @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP + I forget

Calm Mind
Rest
Sleep Talk
Surf


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Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Attack + 252 Speed

Swords Dance
Close Combat
ExtremeSpeed
Bullet Punch

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Post by Safiliwen Mon May 16, 2011 7:53 pm

Looks pretty solid but it seems too many of your pokes rely on setting up or have a set up move to do better than average other than that the whole team looks pretty solid, one other thing it seems you have too many physical attackers but that's just my opinion.
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Post by Tony Mon May 16, 2011 7:57 pm

Mmmk, thanks. This was mainly thrown together. First Team

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Post by buckthefuffalo Mon May 16, 2011 8:58 pm

Since for some reason I can't add in bold text inside a quote, I'm just gonna do this the old fashioned way.

Zangoose: I like it. It's something no one uses, and will no doubt throw off opponents. I'm not sure how well it fits as a lead, however, considering there are still a lot of sash'd leads, meaning you endure, get down to 1 HP, attack them, they get down to 1 HP with Sash, and then you die. Not to mention leads also use a lot of status, so if you get burnt, Endure will be useless. T-Wave will still pretty much shut this set down bar Shadow Claw, unless Zangoose has Quick Feet or some other ability like that that I'm not aware of (I could've sworn it only gets Guts and Immunity though, which is why I didn't mention Toxic).

Togekiss: Looks good except for Water Pulse. You don't really need ParaFlinchFusion. I would recommend putting Aura Sphere here instead.

Dragonite: While Dragonite is bulkier, what you're using it for here is much better done by Garchomp (Salamance is also a viable option). Most Chomps are scarfed, and if you'd like to use one, I can give you a set.

Scizor: About the held item, Muscle Band only slightly increases the power of your physical moves and is really imo not worth using. Since you have Roost, you're better off using Life Orb. However, the only problem I have with Roost is that Scizor really never gets a chance to use it, but if it works for you, keep it. Now what you could do is drop Roost, add Leftovers for the item, and add in Superpower in Roost's place.

Suicune: This is the one Pokemon on your team I'm really against, mainly because it gets terrible coverage. Jellicent, Vaporeon, Quagsire, or any other notable pokemon with water absorb laughs in its face. The problem is I'm not exactly sure what to put in its place. Maybe Milotic? Or if you just want a straight-up sweeper you could go for a Starmie even, which I can again provide a set for.

Lucario: Looks good except for Bullet Punch. You already have a priority move in ES, and it's still more powerful. Whenever I used Luc I would personally go for Crunch in BP's place. Other than that it's pretty standard.

Overall I guess this team is okay. It has some issues, but my main concern is that it doesn't really seem to have much of a flow to it. You've basically put six good pokemon together from what I can see, but that won't always mean the team will be a success.

On another note, some in-depth descriptions of how your pokemon contribute to the team would have been great, as well as knowing the abilities of each poke. Editing that in would make it a whole lot easier for a proper rate, as well as better suggestions.

Anyway, that's all I'm gonna touch on now. If I find anything else wrong I'll be sure to point it out and try my best to help.
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