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Post by Redgohan Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:27 pm

LynjaBear wrote:Even with all of the emnity for Smogon swirling about, I have a respect for smogon and what it does. I’m not a Smogon member myself, and never intend on joining, but I do think that the critisicm and poor opinions of the site is overblown. Organizing pokemon into tiers is no small task, and one of the primary reasons why Smogon is so well-accepted and well-known is because of the general correctness of the tiers. Other organizations such as PO make tiers as well, though most aren’t well known because the tiers they create are not as effective. If Smogon really did make “stupid decisions” why would people follow them? If you don’t like a ban or a certain rule, do you question the validity of it or the test that made the rule exist?

Smogon isn’t banning things out of randomness; they test everything before they ban or unban something. I myself don’t agree with all of their judgements, but they do a lot of thinking before they make a decision, and no one is perfect. Those on the site you so vehemently despise are among the best pokemon minds, and I don’t think it is right to despise and mock Smogoners, especially if you yourself could not do a better job. How many of you could create tiers and movesets for hundereds of pokemon and never make a wrong? I know that I couldn’t. Think before you bash. Smogon may not be perfect, but it is doing the best job it can.

Your totally missing the point. Smogon banned things like excadrill and Garchomp and blaziken due to there abilities for Garchomp, sand veil on a non sand team is usesless just think about it Garchomp lacks dd so things like haxorus and salamence can outspeed and kill and with ice shards running about and bullet punch etc. Same with excadrill without sand support it is easily outsped and koed by many pokes,blaziken if you must know had an ability prior to speed boost and it was by no means broken so yeah, smogon decided to cut corners which is stupid since there an entire group even one guy like me can keep track of things in the meta and again just one guy.
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Post by Frashu Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:45 pm

The problem is even though they're sand dependant, sand exists. Therefore their niche in that circumstance is too powerful to normally.

Garchomp...please. I have to bring Weavile in EVERY match because of him. Ice Punch has 80% accuracy so it's not even reliable. (Sand veil)

You can also just switch into Excadrill to OHKO Weavile anyway.

EDIT: Referring to my last post about this, the only way to make it fair is to ban Sand, even though the sand users aren't OP. So it comes to banning the whole playstyle completely or ban the problem.

Of course banning the problem makes more sense.
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