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Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
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Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
Hey guys :3 I'm here to get your opinion. Haven't tested the team yet, but I have high hopes.
Absol @ Focus Sash
Bloodlust
Adamant
4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Sucker Punch
Psycho Cut
Megahorn
Night Slash
Well. Attacking Lead. Pretty simple. I made some small adjustments to the moveset, simply to add some originality and coverage. Megahorn is for other Dark types, mainly because I don't want to carry Superpower. Sucker Punch provides powerful STAB priority. Psycho Cut eliminates Fighting types. Night Slash adds nice STAB.
Victini @ Life Orb
Malice
Brave
176 HP, 252 Attack, 80 Sp. Attack
Trick Room
V-Create
Thunder
Focus Blast
So, here's my take on a Trick Room Victini. I decided to be original and make it Mixed, considering V-Create will only do so much. In Trick Room, anything will get (pardon my French) truly fucked up by V-Create. Heatran tries to come in? Focus Blast. Jellicent? Thunder. Gyarados, trying to come into for Intimidate? Salamence? Hit by Thunder (like a truck). Victory Star boost the accuracy, so thats not much to worry about it.
Omastar @ Leftovers
Helix
Bold
Shell Armor
252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp. Attack
Spikes
Toxic Spikes
Scald
Ice Beam
This is my physically defensive wall. It sets up Spikes and Toxic Spikes (legal, before you say anything, I checked), and it pairs rather well with my other wall, Amoonguss. Scald is good for burning physical Steels (Scizor, Lucario, etc), and Ice Beam is for Grass and Ground types if you need quick damage, but it's really not worth the risk on Grass.
Amoonguss @ Black Sludge
Dealer
Calm
Regenerator
252 HP, 56 Defense, 200 Sp. Defense
Spore
Venoshock
Hidden Power Fire
Giga Drain
Special wall. Pairs VERY well with Omastar. Their resistances allow each other to switch in on the attacks that could kill the other wall. Spore is there for Flying and Steel types that Omastar can't handle, which is very nice, especially when your dealing with something like Scizor that can set up very easily. You can retaliate with HP Fire, Spore, whatever. Its all just pretty generic, it's underrated, and bulky as all hell.
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Hypocrite
Modest
4 HP, 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Calm Mind
Substitute
Doom Desire
Thunderbolt
Jirachi is just kinda something I came up with. If your behind a Substitute, Doom Desire is basically going to wreck anything. 140 Base Power, 210 with STAB? Thats pretty fricken awesome. And if your boosted, it'd be able to wreck just about anything. Theorhetically. Thunderbolt is just there for coverage. I wasn't really sure what to put for the last spot, so it'd be appreciated if anyone had ideas.
And yes, Aizen, I'm being a hypocrite. Ergo, the name.
Porygon Z @ Choice Scarf
Mac
Modest
Adaptability
4 HP, 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Choice Scarfed for strait up damage. Quick, storng, crazy hard hits. Nuff said.
RMT pl0x?
Absol @ Focus Sash
Bloodlust
Adamant
4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Sucker Punch
Psycho Cut
Megahorn
Night Slash
Well. Attacking Lead. Pretty simple. I made some small adjustments to the moveset, simply to add some originality and coverage. Megahorn is for other Dark types, mainly because I don't want to carry Superpower. Sucker Punch provides powerful STAB priority. Psycho Cut eliminates Fighting types. Night Slash adds nice STAB.
Victini @ Life Orb
Malice
Brave
176 HP, 252 Attack, 80 Sp. Attack
Trick Room
V-Create
Thunder
Focus Blast
So, here's my take on a Trick Room Victini. I decided to be original and make it Mixed, considering V-Create will only do so much. In Trick Room, anything will get (pardon my French) truly fucked up by V-Create. Heatran tries to come in? Focus Blast. Jellicent? Thunder. Gyarados, trying to come into for Intimidate? Salamence? Hit by Thunder (like a truck). Victory Star boost the accuracy, so thats not much to worry about it.
Omastar @ Leftovers
Helix
Bold
Shell Armor
252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp. Attack
Spikes
Toxic Spikes
Scald
Ice Beam
This is my physically defensive wall. It sets up Spikes and Toxic Spikes (legal, before you say anything, I checked), and it pairs rather well with my other wall, Amoonguss. Scald is good for burning physical Steels (Scizor, Lucario, etc), and Ice Beam is for Grass and Ground types if you need quick damage, but it's really not worth the risk on Grass.
Amoonguss @ Black Sludge
Dealer
Calm
Regenerator
252 HP, 56 Defense, 200 Sp. Defense
Spore
Venoshock
Hidden Power Fire
Giga Drain
Special wall. Pairs VERY well with Omastar. Their resistances allow each other to switch in on the attacks that could kill the other wall. Spore is there for Flying and Steel types that Omastar can't handle, which is very nice, especially when your dealing with something like Scizor that can set up very easily. You can retaliate with HP Fire, Spore, whatever. Its all just pretty generic, it's underrated, and bulky as all hell.
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Hypocrite
Modest
4 HP, 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Calm Mind
Substitute
Doom Desire
Thunderbolt
Jirachi is just kinda something I came up with. If your behind a Substitute, Doom Desire is basically going to wreck anything. 140 Base Power, 210 with STAB? Thats pretty fricken awesome. And if your boosted, it'd be able to wreck just about anything. Theorhetically. Thunderbolt is just there for coverage. I wasn't really sure what to put for the last spot, so it'd be appreciated if anyone had ideas.
And yes, Aizen, I'm being a hypocrite. Ergo, the name.
Porygon Z @ Choice Scarf
Mac
Modest
Adaptability
4 HP, 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Choice Scarfed for strait up damage. Quick, storng, crazy hard hits. Nuff said.
RMT pl0x?
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
It looks a goos team, but Iv'e noticed some details that can mess with you. You have 3 weaknesses to ground (Vctini, Omastar and Jirachi), which is really common, and 2 weaknesses to Fighting (Porygon-z, Omastar and Absol), which is popular as hell in Gen 5. Besides, you have one scarfed and V-Create, which lowers half of your stats; that makes switching really necessary and it wilkl be hard if SR is up.
Eduardo- Dream
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
I agree with Evan about the ground weakness. The common Choiced Chomp will be a monster for your team, and fake out hitmonlee and mienshao kill most of your pokemon. Hitmonlee can kill victini with a stone edge or equake, and menshao can u-turn out. Metagross is a huge problem for most of your team as well.
Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
Not a bad team you've got here Evan, although there are some errors that stick out like a sore thumb.
Absol: Very cool set, but the only thing that bothers me is the Sash. I understand you need to be able to take a hit and everything, and that Absol's speed is somewhat meh, but with this particular set I feel that either Life Orb or Lum Berry would work better for increasing your attacking power or shaking off a status move used by another lead, respectively. You may have already tried this, but dropping either Night Slash or Sucker Punch for Swords Dance while keeping Focus Sash sounds like it might work to me. Just a thought.
Victini: I love love love love love this set (Trick Room <3), but there are two errors that jump right out at me: Why have a Brave nature? Shouldn't it be changed to Quiet so your special attacks will be higher, while still lowering your speed? Or is it an event Pokemon issue that can't really be fixed? Also, why Attack investment? All of your attacks are special based (yes, V-Create is a special attack). I would recommend maxing out your special attack and dumping the rest into anything else other than speed.
Omastar: Goes well with Trick Room, great set. Don't change a thing.
Amoongus: Again, great set. Not much I can comment on here.
Jirachi: Doom Desire is cool, but takes two turns for it to go into effect, which I dislike. You should mainly be using your subs to get Calm Mind up rather than setting up DD. I suppose it's just a matter of personal preference, but I would probably change DD for either Psychic or Psyshock (so this set isn't walled by Chansey/Blissey). Thunderbolt is actually pretty common on most CMRachi sets, so it can stay. Another interesting option (if you could find a moveslot) is Trick Room. You could shift around the EVs and nature to be beneficial for TR. Most of your Pokemon would benefit from TR, so that's just a little something you could maybe try out.
Porygon-Z: Standard set is standard, so I can't say much. Pretty reliable special attacker.
Final Notes: One thing I notice about this team is that it is very weak physically, and if Absol dies you're pretty much hopeless against Chansey/Blissey (although V-Create probably does a nice chunk.). Another thing I notice is that you have three fighting weaknesses, something that pretty much spells death for you this gen. So what I would do is get rid of Porygon-Z (your other fighting weaknesses have more important roles), and replace it with a powerful physical attacker.
And that's my rate. Hope this helps!
EDIT: I thought V-Create was Special because that's what it was when I checked PO. To my surprise, it is, in fact, physical. This invalidates my rate for Victini, so please pay it no mind.
Absol: Very cool set, but the only thing that bothers me is the Sash. I understand you need to be able to take a hit and everything, and that Absol's speed is somewhat meh, but with this particular set I feel that either Life Orb or Lum Berry would work better for increasing your attacking power or shaking off a status move used by another lead, respectively. You may have already tried this, but dropping either Night Slash or Sucker Punch for Swords Dance while keeping Focus Sash sounds like it might work to me. Just a thought.
Victini: I love love love love love this set (Trick Room <3), but there are two errors that jump right out at me: Why have a Brave nature? Shouldn't it be changed to Quiet so your special attacks will be higher, while still lowering your speed? Or is it an event Pokemon issue that can't really be fixed? Also, why Attack investment? All of your attacks are special based (yes, V-Create is a special attack). I would recommend maxing out your special attack and dumping the rest into anything else other than speed.
Omastar: Goes well with Trick Room, great set. Don't change a thing.
Amoongus: Again, great set. Not much I can comment on here.
Jirachi: Doom Desire is cool, but takes two turns for it to go into effect, which I dislike. You should mainly be using your subs to get Calm Mind up rather than setting up DD. I suppose it's just a matter of personal preference, but I would probably change DD for either Psychic or Psyshock (so this set isn't walled by Chansey/Blissey). Thunderbolt is actually pretty common on most CMRachi sets, so it can stay. Another interesting option (if you could find a moveslot) is Trick Room. You could shift around the EVs and nature to be beneficial for TR. Most of your Pokemon would benefit from TR, so that's just a little something you could maybe try out.
Porygon-Z: Standard set is standard, so I can't say much. Pretty reliable special attacker.
Final Notes: One thing I notice about this team is that it is very weak physically, and if Absol dies you're pretty much hopeless against Chansey/Blissey (although V-Create probably does a nice chunk.). Another thing I notice is that you have three fighting weaknesses, something that pretty much spells death for you this gen. So what I would do is get rid of Porygon-Z (your other fighting weaknesses have more important roles), and replace it with a powerful physical attacker.
And that's my rate. Hope this helps!
EDIT: I thought V-Create was Special because that's what it was when I checked PO. To my surprise, it is, in fact, physical. This invalidates my rate for Victini, so please pay it no mind.
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
After changing my team I bit, I went and tested it on PO. I'm currently 9-3. The only reasons I lost though were due to a Shadow Tag Chandelure and a Contrary Serperior. Those were only 2 losses though. One I just quite simply played HORRIBLY. But I need a Dragon resist. Any ideas?
Current Team:
Absol
Victini
Omastar
Amoonguss
Vaporeon
Salamence
Amoonguss has yet to kill anything relevant. Vaporeon's Wish Passing is AMAZING for Victini. Omastar trolls Salamance, taking +1 EQs, and revenge killing with Ice Beams. Mence has swept 4 times. Victini 4. Absol, if I play it correctly, beats Speed Boost Blaziken (something I ran into), Donphan, Tyranitar, Dragonite, and several other leads. It even took on a Salamence after the Intimidate! All I want is a Dragon Resist, but I can usually outplay the typical Mence and D-Nite anyways.
Current Team:
Absol
Victini
Omastar
Amoonguss
Vaporeon
Salamence
Amoonguss has yet to kill anything relevant. Vaporeon's Wish Passing is AMAZING for Victini. Omastar trolls Salamance, taking +1 EQs, and revenge killing with Ice Beams. Mence has swept 4 times. Victini 4. Absol, if I play it correctly, beats Speed Boost Blaziken (something I ran into), Donphan, Tyranitar, Dragonite, and several other leads. It even took on a Salamence after the Intimidate! All I want is a Dragon Resist, but I can usually outplay the typical Mence and D-Nite anyways.
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
It's kinda difficult to have something that resists Dragon types. Steel can do it, but are trolled by Fire Blast or Equake, which most dragons carry.
Eduardo- Dream
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
You could use a bronzong.
nightmareforums- Head Admin
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
I just don't wanna change my walls :/
Evan- War Veterans
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
Idk if it will work, but maybe fitting a Metagross with Air Balloon on the team?
Eduardo- Dream
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
Hmmm I really like absols, but bisharp has a dragon ressist and still gets sucker punch, though I'm not sure what else it can kill
Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
But Absol has Super Luck, and its ridiculous how many crits I get.
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Re: Evan's 5th Gen RMT #1
I really wish the omastar here was a Shell Smasher, but I know why it isn't you are going to need him. xD Really good team btw. (: that jirachi is going to be beast, xD
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