FARIES! BECAUSE PINK! (fairy monotype)

While I'm not going to pick apart your entire reply I will add that Offensive Sylveon is indeed a thing and can work wonders. Whether it's "better" than the Wish pass set is irrelevant it's still a thing. Also in the standard 6v6 Hyper Beam is indeed not a thing. However if you take them to random battles so you're in the 3v3 setting it can work as a good finisher if you need immediate power.

going to be honest. made this at twelve. which is around the same time any logical process in my head shuts off.....ill swap things around (and saying desu in every sentence, is. not. cool......please stop, before you kill it worse than Obama killed the U.S. economy.)

on a side note, nothing wrong with florges? and should i go psyshock, or psychic? same base power, but psyshock breaks special walls, which would be an issue for a highly special team. and what moveset and ev's for gard, sylv, and whim?

#1: oohhh

#2: how come only i get lashed when i use a joke about the economy?

#3(the important one): noted, noted, and ill try the two of them. i went for hp ground to hit poison and steel types.

Whimsicott would rather have Taunt+Sub+Seed with Leftovers. Do the HP calcs so you can have as many subs as possible. You want to be able to be able to sub at least 4 times.

Amnesia, while guarding against Azu's common weaknesses, isn't really worth it at all since it's meant to be offensive. You can consider AV Azu if you really want to take special attacks, but it's not worth it in my opinion. Korasi said you can use leftovers on the BD set, but since Azu isn't that tanky at 50% for the leftovers to matter anyway, Sitrus Berry is the superior option in my opinion. You're more likely to live on the setup turn, and then you can just Aqua Jet anything faster than you for massive damage.

Togekiss needs either a defensive spread with Twave (which won't usually net you more than 1 KO unless you pack Roost), or a sweeping set with Nasty Plot. Togekiss at +2 is a force, and if you want even more power, Life Orb is an option. NP-Air Slash-Dazzling Gleam-Aura Sphere/Roost is a good set. Aura Sphere helps kill steel types, most notably Heatran who will wall you otherwise. Roost increases longevity. Oh, and Togekiss really needs Timid either way to max out your opportunities for flinching.

ONLY consider Hyper Beam on Mega Gardevoir if you're playing Battle Spot. Outside of that, Moonblast will be the better attack most of the time. You don't have to change Psyshock to Psychic, but consider what threats are more important to your team and adjust accordingly. AV Conkeldurr is a thing, but I don't see it really staying on M-Gardevoir anyway. However, your team is mostly special attackers, so tech'ing Psyshock isn't a bad choice in case you run into a special wall. Speaking of special walling, try out Calm Mind over Hyper Beam on M-Gardevoir. Its base Special stats are huge.

I haven't seen Florges enough to know much about it, but I do know that it walls special attacks very well. Consider looking at your other options.

Wish Sylveon with Leftovers would be more helpful to your team, I think. The only alternative is CM but I think you've got enough setup Pokemon.


Have you considered trying Clefable? It's arguably one of the best fairies up there with Togekiss, and has great versatility to boot.

its fine, and i am looking into the other fairies....whats so bad about granbull?

samurott wrote:its fine, and i am looking into the other fairies....whats so bad about granbull?

Its stats are overall very lackluster, with attack being its only good one. On top of that, it doesn't haven't any priority to remedy its low speed. Pure Fairy type isn't great. Azumarill does the physical fairy job much, much better.

why the i am the lolicon run baton pass on sylveon anything that switches into it kills it or 2HKOs it, meaning no prior damage is allowed if you're running baton pass. just run heal bell for better cleric abilities and hard switch into an appropriate counter. also, cute charm is a desu ability, run pixilate/hyper voice, you ignore subs and get a free life orb boost on a STAB

ill throw things around and see what works....so whats azu's set going to be? also, whimsicott can't learn twave, so i went with giga drain, works pretty well...ill give mega maw a try

on a side note, Florges cannot learn focus blast, and this is my new azu set....its not that different except some swapped moves and stats



Azumarill @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 188 Atk / 68 HP / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Brick Break
- Play Rough
- Belly Drum

I might have forgotten to mention this, but even with BD, Azumarill still needs Huge Power. As for the EV's, I would recommend maxing your attack and putting the rest in HP. You can, however, put EVs into speed to outpriority Scizor if you want. Brick Break isn't a bad coverage move, but Superpower is better for the raw power. In my opinion though, Return is the best 3rd attacking coverage move. It covers 2 of the 3 Pokemon in OU that resist Water/Fairy (Tentacruel, Ferrothorn, and MVenusaur). Just don't leave it out on MVenusaur unless you're already at +6, preferably knowing that it doesn't have Sleep Powder. Of course, if you invest 252 EVs in speed with a neutral nature, you will just barely outspeed the three most common MVenusaur sets.

Klefki is an option for Prankster T-Wave, with better typing than Whimsicott as well.

Evan wrote:Klefki is an option for Prankster T-Wave, with better typing than Whimsicott as well.

This, the thing is pretty much the most rage-inducing 'mon to come out of gen VI

buckthefuffalo wrote:

Evan wrote:Klefki is an option for Prankster T-Wave, with better typing than Whimsicott as well.

This, the thing is pretty much the most rage-inducing 'mon to come out of gen VI

you can run sub/swagger too for oodles of douche

maximum scumbag from the spawn of the kingdom key?.....i'm interested. ev spread?

samurott wrote:maximum scumbag from the spawn of the kingdom key?.....i'm interested. ev spread?

252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD

pretty well....had testing up my everything